Some scholars even argue that the Iberian peninsula (modern-day Spain and Portugal) was once heavily populated by Celtiberians who spoke at now-extinct Celtic language. if you look at the English Celts there are at least 20 tribes just in England, not Scotland or Irish! So, let's not be putting the cart before the horse here. R1b is dominant in Ireland, Scotland, England, Wales, Brittany, France, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, north-west Italy, West Saxony, Franconia and Bavaria. Voted up. [109], There are also large Irish communities in some mainland European countries, notably in Spain, France and Germany. "the inability of the Irish man to move his hips while dancing" haha...so funny, I have 6 brothers and not one of them can move their hips while dancing...I think it extended to the Irish Woman in my case. The term \"Black Irish\" is used almost exclusively outside of Ireland in reference to certain groups of people, although there is little agreement over the people to whom it applies and why. Few, very few, ended up in Ireland. So, if taking into account that an admixture of more ancient people with newcomers during the late Neolithic and Bronze Ages accounted for Basques and Irish to have similar DNA, it does not make the Basques "Celts." The country came to be called Scotland, after the Roman name for the Gaels: Scoti. Centum Indo-European languages then developed in the following millennia: Italic, Celtic, and Greek, but the Greeks weren't R1B1 DNA carriers. So red-heads may well be descended from the earliest ancestors of the Irish and British. But the archaeological evidence clearly shows that they arrived in the fifth century and then spread across the country. An estimated 10 million people born in Ireland have emigrated from their homeland over the past 300 years, making the Irish diaspora one of the biggest of any nation. Many of their compositions were incorporated into the compendium Lebor Gabála Érenn. Jim Drummond from Rugby, Warwickshire on December 10, 2013: Facinating especially the Basque/spanish connection. Now I think the Spanish blood that my Mother talked about must of come from there. Just received the results of DNA testing. Irish often have red hair, or very dark brown hair. Lusitanians in Iberia might have spoken a language more related to Italic than Celtic, but most of the tribes in Iberia were speaking a Celtic language that became extinct during the two centuries that Rome took to conquer, with 19BC being the year ancient Galicia (Austurias, Cantabria, Leon, Galicia and the northern 1/3rd of Portugal) fell. When the Normans took over they wanted a simplified version for their records. This is super exciting for us and solves a bit of a mystery. Anyway just was so happy 97% Irish. [49] Traditional histories assert that the Romans never attempted to conquer Ireland, although it may have been considered. I'm Irish, hailing from Tipperary, and Ryan is my maiden name. Therefore while the earliest English ancestors were very similar in DNA and culture to the tribes of Ireland, later arrivals to England have created more diversity between the two groups. Passionate, funny, creative: the real Irish personality Few nations get the chance to celebrate themselves as visibly as Ireland does on St Patrick’s Day. I had no idea I had any Iberian heritage. There was a very large population here at that time, what happened to them? The Scotch-Irish emigrants to this country were, generally speaking, men of splendid bodies and perfect digestion. My father's side is pure anglo saxon but my mother was half Irish and half Scottish. Sandeep Rathore from New Delhi on September 25, 2015: BigBlue54 from Hull, East Yorkshire on April 28, 2015: Thanks for that Oliver. This coincides with the English arriving from the east after the Romans left. Iberian was mentioned on my pg. The DNA of Basques suggest that they are descendants of an admixture of people who had been living there since the end of the Ice Age or before then with later comers, Indo-European speakers and R1B1 carriers, who came into the region during the late Stone Age and through the Bronze Age, but the ancient language held and a Centum Indo-European language, what would have become a proto-Celtic language, never caught on there. The Famine that affected Ireland from 1845 to 1852 has become an integral part of folk legend. People of Irish descent are also one of the largest self-reported ethnic groups in Canada, after English, French and Scottish Canadians. They believe some of these people moved northwards along the Atlantic coast bringing Celtic language and culture to Ireland and Britain, as well as France. Hence the chief of the clan Ó Cearnaigh (Kearney) was referred to as An Sionnach (Fox), which his descendants use to this day. Obviously if R1B1 was and is a paternal line, so that means there's a maternal one as well, and geneticists believe that some of that DNA came from people who left north Africa after the last Ice Age, as the Sahara region really heated up, and people there fled into southern Europe and further north. The modern Irish population share many genetic similarities with Scottish and Welsh populations, and to a lesser extent the English. Nothing unusual there except that the decoration within it was Irish in style. The French King then felt it was safe to return home. [53] The English term for these lordships was "nation" or "country". Both my dad and my wife's dad had jet-black hair in their youth (my aunts and uncles included). There are also significant numbers in Argentina, Mexico, New Zealand and Brazil. I did read several years ago about some DNA research carried out on one of the islands on the Irish west coast. It also might explain in my AncestryDNA result of 6% Iberian Peninsula to go with my 67% pure Irish. If I could bring back Cornwall into my discussion, I visited Tintangel and saw the bi-lingual English/Cornish signs. [52] In the words of Seumas MacManus: If we compare the history of Ireland in the 6th century, after Christianity was received, with that of the 4th century, before the coming of Christianity, the wonderful change and contrast is probably more striking than any other such change in any other nation known to history. If you can fix a faulty gene so a person can enjoy their health, think of all the dead ancestors that died from something that person didn't have to suffer from. As a clan-based society, genealogy was all important. Are we looking at people from Spain moving to Britain or those from Britain moving to Spain? [53] While the distinction between "free" and "unfree" elements of the Irish people was unreal in legal terms, it was a social and economic reality. Notable Irish explorers include Brendan the Navigator, Sir Robert McClure, Sir Alexander Armstrong, Sir Ernest Shackleton and Tom Crean. Mac's, the name not the burger, arrived in what is now Scotland in the 5th century, about the same time as the English. Turns out, I have only a 1% portion of my DNA from Eastern Europe—and an equal amount of “Iberian.”. The intriguing content was well covered and you explained it so well, excellent hub. I can see the connection with Map, Mac and Ap. The regiments of the 17th to the 20th century went overseas for years, in fact there are recorded cases of regiments forgotten in such place as the Caribbean islands. And how do you separate the English from Denmark and the Danes from Denmark? [21] They are "of simple manners" (ēthesin haplous) and are content with plain fare. [91] A knowledge of Latin was common among the poor Irish mountaineers in the 17th century, who spoke it on special occasions, while cattle were bought and sold in Greek in the mountain market-places of Kerry.[92]. They are ruled by many kings and princes who live in peace with each other. In the 12th century, Icelandic bard and historian Snorri Sturluson proposed that the Norse gods were originally historical war leaders and kings, who later became cult figures, eventually set into society as gods. It is a paternal DNA as well. 1390–1418); Pilip Ballach Ó Duibhgeannáin (fl. And the Irish goat is a multi-purpose breed, but mainly used for meat and milk production. I find this information interesting for several reasons but one is that there was supposed to be a great deal of internal migration in Britain in the 19th century. Nine of the signatories of the American Declaration of Independence were of Irish origin. Please comment on this and give some input. The explanation given on the website looked more like a little bit of knowledge and a very large amount of guess work. The Alan leader offered to surrender the town to Attila if the people were spared. It was known by this name after the British Prime Minister at the time, Robert Peel, and the fact that many Irish weren't aware on how to cook corn. [81] With the exception of the Gaelic-Irish Fitzpatrick (Mac Giolla Phádraig) surname, all names that begin with Fitz – including FitzGerald (Mac Gearailt), Fitzsimons (Mac Síomóin/Mac an Ridire) and FitzHenry (Mac Anraí) – are descended from the initial Norman settlers. My maternal grandmother was a Chapman. BigBlue54 from Hull, East Yorkshire on February 02, 2014: Hi Marie, I found your hub very interesting and informative. Hi, I stumbled on this article and thought it is very interesting, but there are some misconceptions in it. Heidi: Yes, the idea that enough Spaniards survived shipwrecks during the Armada by swimming ashore in Ireland's west coast to have left a sizable genetic marker there has been debunked. "[132] Some famous Argentines of Irish descent and Irish people who settled in Argentina include Che Guevara, former president Edelmiro Julián Farrell, and admiral William Brown. [20] The Roman word Picti, "the Picts", means "painted". A son has the same surname as his father. He does consider himself Welsh, though he never learned to speak it growing up near Swansea. When the land was covered in thick forest, coastal settlements were common and people travelled around the seaboard of Europe quite freely. [108] Today the diaspora is believed to contain an estimated 80 million people. The O'Neill family, who claim to descend from Niall, have certainly been a powerful family through the ages in Ireland. [114] For both the Irish in Ireland and those in the resulting diaspora, the famine entered folk memory[115] and became a rallying point for various nationalist movements. Recent research into Irish DNA at the beginning of the twenty-first century suggests that the early inhabitants of Ireland were not directly descended from the Keltoi of central Europe. [48], One Roman historian records that the Irish people were divided into "sixteen different nations" or tribes. For a long time the myth of Irish history has been that the Irish are Celts. Oddly enough, I have carried a very Eastern European type last name through my life. There is lot more which research can dig out. Celtic Culture is a social phenomenon not heriditary or genetic specific. I visited Cornwall in March of 2017 and was told that black hair is quite common there. The women of Magnus's family were allowed to live, and the base in Armorica remained in Conan's control. I did DNA got 97% Irish which I think is a high number, 2 % Finland, 1% Native American. However, the Irish also share their DNA to a large extent with the people of Britain, especially the Scottish and Welsh. The British government set up workhouses which were disease ridden (with cholera, TB and others) but they also failed as little food was available and many died on arrival as they were overworked. That's why I support the research of DNA. Since 2014 the Cornish have been designated a separate ethnicity in England. I have now been in a relationship with an Irish Man for almost seven years, married for four, and during those years I have laughed, cried and loved. Marie McKeown (author) from Ireland on March 26, 2017: Unfortunately it can be very difficult to trace family history in Ireland. There are other hypotheses, mostly placing Irish ancestors on the Iberian peninsula or among the traders that sailed back and forth between Spain, North Africa, and Ireland, particularly around the Connemara region. I know of a village not far from me which has two. A final push by the Franks under Charles the Bald to conquer all of Brittany on 22 August 851 led to a two-day open battle at Jengland in which the Armoricans systematically whittled down the Frankish army. There is some new research emerging that suggests that the Celtic culture of Ireland and Britain did not originate in central Europe but in the Iberian peninsula - sometimes this is called the Atlantic seaboard culture. BigBlue54 from Hull, East Yorkshire on March 02, 2014: There is a difference between the land and the people Joseph. Writing ‘Gay’ on a photo of your mate and his girlfriend on Facebook is juvenile. The Bretons set about making their own mark on the landscape. My aunt recently had the ancestry.com DNA test done and it showed her results as 28% Irish and 9% Iberian peninsula. The Romans captured the local hill before the Huns could, and Aetius the Roman general who blamed the Alans for not all dying before letting the Huns reach Orleans placed the Alans front centre in the hope that the Huns would annihilate them. Some people use 'Celt' for the inhabitants of Ireland and Britain before the Roman and Anglo-Saxon conquests. Among the last of the true bardic poets were Brian Mac Giolla Phádraig (c. 1580–1652) and Dáibhí Ó Bruadair (1625–1698). [44] Filmmaker Bob Quinn, in the documentary series Atlantean, hypothesises the existence of an ancient sea-trading route linking North Africa and Iberia to regions such as Connemara. His dad was 100% Irish born in Ireland. The Anglo-Irish scientist Robert Boyle (1627–1691) is considered the father of chemistry for his book The Sceptical Chymist, written in 1661. Irish physical traits? 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